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🗓️ 27 January 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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John Eldredge returns to the podcast to talk about his newest book titled, “Experience Jesus. Really.” Topics covered include: how to live as an ordinary mystic (someone who experiences the sweet presence of God on a regular basis), why you don’t need to understand something to experience it and benefit from it, the importance of turning toward Jesus with the parts of our hearts that are not doing well, and how the presence of Jesus heals even the fragmented and traumatized parts of us.
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0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Place We Find Ourselves podcast. |
0:04.1 | I'm Adam Young, and I'm delighted to be joined again by a previous guest who has written a new book, and that is John Eldridge. |
0:12.0 | John, welcome. |
0:13.5 | Oh, thanks, Adam. |
0:14.5 | It's good to see you again. |
0:15.9 | Good to chat with you. |
0:18.1 | You've written a book, a really important book, in my opinion, and the title is, |
0:23.6 | experience Jesus, period, really. |
0:28.7 | And it's coming out March 4th. |
0:31.2 | You can pre-order it now, and I want to talk to you about the book. |
0:34.0 | But first, let me just say, it moved me deeply. It disrupted me in the best |
0:39.8 | sense of that word, and it has invited me. Specifically, it's invited me into the presence of Jesus |
0:48.8 | as my refuge. And we're going to talk about all that. But I want to begin now with where you begin in the book, |
0:57.5 | which is with some discussion about how we've all been disciples by the internet. And here's what |
1:04.8 | you write. So let me just read a short paragraph and then we'll talk a bit. The internet has |
1:10.7 | disciples your soul to expect immediate answers. The saints of ages past would be |
1:17.4 | aghast at that. Waiting was considered formational for the soul. They planted crops in |
1:25.5 | the spring and harvested in the fall. |
1:28.0 | There was no rushing things. |
1:30.1 | But now, when you turn to Jesus and you are not answered in the way the Internet answers, |
1:37.4 | you feel Jesus isn't listening or that you can't hear from him. |
1:40.4 | You sadly believe the two of you are distant from one another because your soul |
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