If you're not failing, if you're not falling short, I would argue you're probably not taking

enough risks or you're not swinging big enough.

That's Ryan Holliday, New York Times best-selling author, thought leader, and media strategist.

You have to take action. Perception tees up action because by focusing on what's in your control, by focusing on what's

positive, by focusing on your response, you now have a direction to go in.

But if you don't go in that direction, all you're doing is playing around in your mind.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures

in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing

private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating

massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed

law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this

podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from

those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means

to be a true game changer. Today, we're revisiting one of our most popular episodes from the

podcast where I sat down with the one and only Ryan Holiday to discuss how our perception of obstacles and challenges influences our

responses to them, how to take discipline and strategic action in the face of adversity,

and how persistence with the right feedback loop will help you overcome any barrier that stands

in your way.

What's that real inner strength and character that you have? Anyone can be good when

things are good. But can you keep going when things are not good? This is what we have to cultivate

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