162 | Max Chafkin: What the Rise of the Silicon Valley Right Means for America

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.8 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Max Chafkin, author of The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power and Bloomberg Businessweek reporter, joins The Realignment to discuss the past, present, and future of Silicon Valley and America through.

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0:00.0	Marshall and Saga here, welcome back to the Realignment.
0:08.5	And I think you can actually go further back to things he wrote in the late 2000s,
0:15.2	where he's talking about anxiety over globalization. He was very much aware of this kind of
0:21.2	resurgence of skepticism towards immigration and was doing, you know, was sort of playing a role in
0:28.3	that, but sought coming for sure. And I think in general, he's inclined to a pessimistic take.
0:36.0	I would argue. And of course, that can be a source of insight and power, especially in an industry
0:43.8	that kind of tends, as he's written, to these kind of rosy ideas about the future.
0:59.7	Hey everybody, happy Tuesday. We are continuing our really great series of episodes. A bunch of
1:06.3	people wrote in asking to have this conversation with Max Chaffkin. He is the author of the new
1:12.8	biography of Peter T. O. The Contrarian, because it's the realignment, had absolutely zero interest in
1:18.8	personal details or the scandals. Really, we were more interested in the actual ideas itself.
1:25.6	Saga, you couldn't make this interview, but we talked a bit about what was so interesting about
1:29.4	discussing Peter's ideas and how they actually planned it all these debates.
1:33.6	Yeah, I'm sorry I've been gone guys, I've been having a ton of travel, which has made scheduling
1:38.0	really difficult with all of breaking points, but I was really sad to miss this one because actually
1:42.7	listened to about half of it so far on Audible. And one of the things that Max actually does now
1:48.9	is that the ideas of Peter T. O. monopolization, wanting to be Google, if you're in that business,
1:54.9	wanting and looking forward to the markets and how to scale, actually Peter T. O. is one of the most
2:00.9	influential thinkers in all of Silicon Valley. And he's had his fingers in some of the biggest deals,
2:05.6	not to mention just his cultural footprint relative to what exactly the man has done. So
2:10.6	that's what I think you guys are going to get the most out of this conversation, the ideas,
2:15.2	what exactly influences this pretty idiosyncratic man who has history at Stanford, a libertarian,
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