Marshall here. Welcome back to the re-element.

The correct place to be if you want to get elected nationally in the United States is fiscally

liberal and socially conservative. It is to be a New Deal Democrat. The Donald Trump was

trying to, and now the populist or nationalist section of the Republican Party is trying

to recreate the New Deal coalition. And when Josh Hawley said, here's what we ought to do

with the jobs lost recovered. We're going to save them all. We're just going to cut checks

for every job that was lost through the whole time. Of course, that would be popular, right?

Of course, that would be popular. When we survey, when we do survey questions on, what do

you think about Biden's plan to spend a quidrillion dollars? People are like, I dig it. When

you say, what do you think about plans to change social security and Medicare in the

future? I don't dig it. I don't like it. People want, they want Robert Byrd. They want a social

conservative who is preaching that old time religion and the old values that make sure

that they know that they're still comfortable. What about the guy who just won in New York,

Eric Adams? I'm tough on crime. I'm a traditional values kind of guy, culturally conservative.

I'm really excited for this episode today. Ever since that commenter, Slash Revere, a few

weeks ago pointed out that, Sagar and I really threw aside a lot of our early analysis for

the first two to the podcast, which is all about populism and what we should learn and

what we shouldn't learn from the 2016 election. So these past few episodes that are focused

on the future of American politics, I've been really focused on pushing our assumptions,

pushing the audiences assumptions, and then pushing the guest assumptions. Today's episode

with Aliana Johnson and Chris Starrot is exactly in that category. Aliana was actually

one of the first guests on the podcast back in 2019. She is the editor in chief of the

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