152 The Tenant Management Organisation: Week 2
The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast
BBC
4.8 • 627 Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
‘Stay put’ was relied on despite evacuations after fires in other TMO properties. The TMO’s Peter Maddison and Teresa Brown were questioned about the organisation’s relationship with residents and why no personal emergency evacuation plans were drawn up for residents with disabilities. Expert witness Jonathan Sakula told the inquiry the dangers of using combustible cladding on high rise buildings were widely known in the construction industry after a number of cladding fires around the world.
Presenter / Producer: Kate Lamble Producer: Sharon Hemans Researcher: May Cameron
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.1 | Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me, Kate Lamble. |
| 0:10.3 | Today, there was a fire in high-rise residential building, |
| 0:14.1 | which is still partially clad in aluminium composite material, |
| 0:18.3 | a similar type of cladding to that installed on Grenfell. |
| 0:21.9 | The London Fire Brigade said parts of the 8th, 9th and 10th floors of the building in |
| 0:26.3 | East London were alight. The developer has said the cladding played no part in facilitating |
| 0:31.7 | the fire, but more than 40 people received treatment. Three years since the start of the public inquiry and nearly four |
| 0:39.5 | years since the Grenfell Tower fire, this issue has not gone away. In the meantime, the inquiry's |
| 0:46.2 | work continues. This week, an expert witness agreed that it would have been common sense |
| 0:51.7 | not to use combustible aluminium composite cladding |
| 0:54.8 | on a high-rise residential building. |
| 0:57.5 | And the Tenant Management Organisation's Director of Housing |
| 1:00.0 | said a number of high-rise fires, which had required evacuation, |
| 1:04.1 | did not suggest to her that vulnerable residents needed a personal emergency evacuation plan. |
| 1:10.2 | Let's get started with the evidence then. |
| 1:12.2 | The TMO's Director of Assets and Regeneration, Peter Madison, returned to finish his evidence |
| 1:16.9 | this week, and he picked up on a topic we've heard lots about over the last few weeks, |
| 1:22.0 | the TMO's relationship with the residents of Grenfell Tower. In August 2013, eight months after he joined the organisation, |
| 1:29.6 | one of Peter Madison's colleagues drew up a plan for how the TMO would communicate details |
| 1:34.2 | of the refurbishment to those living in the building. One of their objectives was... |
| 1:39.2 | Residents of Grenfell Tower have confidence in the project and TMO's ability to deliver. |
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