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🗓️ 30 April 2021
⏱️ 43 minutes
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‘Let’s hope our luck holds out and there are no fires in the meantime’. Staff from the Tenant Management Organisation, which managed Grenfell Tower, returned to give evidence at the inquiry. The TMO’s Peter Maddison and Claire Williams were asked why important fire safety measures, such as smoke vents and self-closing fire doors, were left broken or non-compliant for significant periods of time. Two other TMO staff, Siobhan Rumble and Nicola Bartholomew, both said they never discussed evacuation plans for residents with disabilities because the building had a ‘stay put’ policy.
Presenter / Producer: Kate Lamble Producer: Sharon Hemans Researcher: May Cameron
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
0:05.0 | Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me, Kate Lambell. |
0:09.4 | This week, staff from the Tenant Management Organisation, which ran the building, continued to give evidence. |
0:14.5 | And we learnt that the TMO blocked staff access to a resident blog, which raised issues of fire safety. |
0:20.6 | A health and safety manager said |
0:21.9 | she hoped their luck held while the ventilation system was not working for many months. And the |
0:27.5 | TMO was told by a handyman that the work he had to carry out to remove door closing mechanisms |
0:32.5 | made them illegal. Let's get started on the evidence then. In September 2013, Claire Williams was hired |
0:40.0 | to be the TMO's project manager for the Grenfell Tower refurbishment, handling the schedule |
0:44.5 | and a multi-million pound budget. She's already given evidence about how she worked with |
0:49.1 | contractors, which you can hear in episode 131 of this podcast. This time, though, the inquiry began by |
0:56.1 | asking her about one of her other roles, communicating the changes to residents. Shortly after |
1:01.5 | joining the TMO, Claire Williams saw the Grenfarl Action Group blog, which had been started by the |
1:06.6 | residents Ed Defarn and Francis O'Connor. Lead counsel to the inquiry, Richard Millett, read from her written witness statement. |
1:14.0 | I had seen some blogs at some point and I decided that they were negative and vitriolic and |
1:20.0 | that I would not look at them again. |
1:22.5 | They were libeless. |
1:24.3 | They were clearly slanted and substantiated information. |
1:29.5 | That was probably the crux of it. |
1:32.1 | Did you consider that the blogs might be a way in which the residents |
1:36.6 | or some of the residents of Grenfell Tower |
1:39.0 | sought to bring issues that affected them personally |
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