Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast, the must listen to podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy.

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

Hello, I'm Rory and with me as always is Ken. How are you doing, Ken?

Exceptionally well today. So glad to be here. Thank you, Rory. This is episode 151. Thank you for joining us on the counselling tutor podcast.

Our usual format is we have three topics that we will be discussing within our podcast. and today is of course no exception. We're

starting off with topic number one where we'll be looking at how one would work with conflicting

ethical frameworks. I think an interesting topic. If you're a student, you'd need to write

about this in your assignments. But if you're out and practicing as a practitioner, there are times

you may come into contact with those conflicting frameworks, so we'll be looking a little deeper into that.

And then Rory, I'll check in with CPCAB this week.

You spoke with Heather Price about why a student might graduate a level four course, be, I guess, in practice, and then want to top up the reasons

why one would maybe top up from a level four to a level five.

Yes, we caught up with the Fab Heather Price, and she outlined the benefits of doing a level

five course to prepare you for private practice and what you what you need to

need to understand and get a kind of sense of maybe maybe things you learn that you don't learn

in your level four course like it it, looking forward to that one.

And we end episode 151 by dipping our toe into practice matters.

This is where we look at practitioners in practice and what you may come up against.

And there's a lecture, Rory, that was recently added to our CPD library.

And you did an interview with the lecturer and that is Lisa Cromer and of course the topic is counselling autistic clients. Absolutely. Neurodiversity

is coming of age now. It's now well recognised that not everybody sees the world in the same way we do.

That's something, of course, that people have studied counselling realise, but there are some

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