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Counselling Tutor

151 – Benefits of Getting a Level 5 Diploma in Counselling

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6636 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Working with Conflicting Ethical Frameworks - Counselling Autistic Clients In episode 151 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes discuss the challenge of working with conflicting ethical frameworks. 'Check-In with CPCAB' then looks at the possible benefits of getting a Level 5 diploma in counselling. Finally, in 'Practice Matters', Rory interviews Lisa Cromar about counselling autistic people. Working with Conflicting Ethical Frameworks (starts at 2.55 mins) A question that arises regularly in the Counselling Tutor Facebook group is how we can work with conflicting ethical frameworks; this is a common assignment question for students of counselling and psychotherapy. Examples of work environments in which there may be conflicting ethical frameworks would be: school counselling, where the school's code of conduct may not be consistent with, say, the Ethical Framework for the Counselling Professions (published by the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, 2018) drug and addiction agencies, where confidentiality may not apply to the taking of street drugs (for reasons of physical safety of the clients). If you encounter a conflict in ethical frameworks, it can be challenging to work out which to abide by, and how to blend the requirements of each. Rory and Ken suggest the following tips: Ensure that you fully read and understand both ethical frameworks, asking questions if you are unsure about any part of these. Sort the components of each into 'must-dos' (i.e. essential parts that you must abide by) and 'nice-ifs' (i.e. parts that are negotiable). Explain to colleagues your own must-dos, and listen to theirs and their rationale for these. Blend both into a contract that fits the essential requirements of the essential parts of the two frameworks, remembering that sometimes appropriate adjustments can be justified to best serve the client. Evidence your approach in writing. Do discuss any such conflicts with your clinical supervisor. Ensure too that you are familiar with the Caldicott Principles. Rory has written a checklist on working with conflicting ethical frameworks. This is available here, or you can get hold of it through Counselling Study Resource (CSR). Check-In with CPCAB: Benefits of Getting a Level 5 Diploma in Counselling (starts at 17.10 mins) Rory talks to Heather Price (Senior Counselling Professional) at CPCAB (Counselling & Psychotherapy Central Awarding Body) about the reasons for counsellors deciding to top up their level 4 diploma with a level 5 qualification. In general, Heather suggests working for a while (at least a year) with your level 4 diploma before considering getting a level 5 diploma in counselling. Some counsellors choose to take the CPCAB's Level 5 Diploma in Cognitive Behavioural Therapeutic Skills and Theory, in order to specialise and add another modality to their offering. Other counsellors, meanwhile, choose to take the Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling, which is especially suited to those who wish to work in private practice. Each of these two courses takes one academic year to complete. The Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling focuses particularly on assessment of clients (and includes practical experience in this). It also covers many other areas that support private-practice work, for example: creating and working with cancellation policies taking payments setting and maintaining boundaries in independent practice safe working writing reports for other professionals. You can find more information about CPCAB on its website. CPCAB is the UK's only awarding body run by counsellors for counsellors. Counselling Autistic Clients (starts at 30.15 mins) In this segment of the Counselling Tutor Podcast - aimed at qualified practitioners - Rory talks to counsellor Lisa Cromar about the lecture she delivered recently fo...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast, the must listen to podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy.

0:10.6

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:16.0

Hello, I'm Rory and with me as always is Ken. How are you doing, Ken?

0:20.9

Exceptionally well today. So glad to be here. Thank you, Rory. This is episode 151. Thank you for joining us on the counselling tutor podcast.

0:31.3

Our usual format is we have three topics that we will be discussing within our podcast. and today is of course no exception. We're

0:38.2

starting off with topic number one where we'll be looking at how one would work with conflicting

0:43.8

ethical frameworks. I think an interesting topic. If you're a student, you'd need to write

0:48.4

about this in your assignments. But if you're out and practicing as a practitioner, there are times

0:53.1

you may come into contact with those conflicting frameworks, so we'll be looking a little deeper into that.

0:59.0

And then Rory, I'll check in with CPCAB this week.

1:03.7

You spoke with Heather Price about why a student might graduate a level four course, be, I guess, in practice, and then want to top up the reasons

1:15.1

why one would maybe top up from a level four to a level five.

1:18.6

Yes, we caught up with the Fab Heather Price, and she outlined the benefits of doing a level

1:24.4

five course to prepare you for private practice and what you what you need to

1:32.6

need to understand and get a kind of sense of maybe maybe things you learn that you don't learn

1:41.0

in your level four course like it it, looking forward to that one.

1:49.4

And we end episode 151 by dipping our toe into practice matters.

1:54.6

This is where we look at practitioners in practice and what you may come up against.

1:59.5

And there's a lecture, Rory, that was recently added to our CPD library.

2:04.0

And you did an interview with the lecturer and that is Lisa Cromer and of course the topic is counselling autistic clients. Absolutely. Neurodiversity

2:11.9

is coming of age now. It's now well recognised that not everybody sees the world in the same way we do.

2:21.2

That's something, of course, that people have studied counselling realise, but there are some

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