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Welcome back to The Restless Politics Leading with me, Rory Stewart.

And me, Alastair Campbell, this is for part two of our interview with the former First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon.

Nicola, we left part one talking about Alex Salmon.

And just before we go back into that, maybe just take us a step back to the independence

referendum.

You were telling Rory about where you felt Salmon was good tactically.

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