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Welcome to the rest of politics leading with me, Rory Stewart.

And with me, Alastair Campbell.

And we're absolutely delighted to be joined for the first of two episodes by Nicholas Sturgeon.

She is the longest serving of the seven people who've been Scotland's first minister since the Scottish Parliament was re-established in 1999,

thank you Labour, and so far she's the only woman to fail that job. Like her hero, Robert Burns,

Nicola was raised in a working-class family in Ayrshire, shy,

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