Made you really believe in the concept of evil as a palpable thing.

What they did, the way they looked, the way they acted, the way they interacted with each other,

with their surroundings like in the courtroom.

What kind of demeanor did they typically display in the courtroom whenever you was confident, cocky, no regrets, no remorse.

And then what they did, I mean, they take a family, a beautiful family,

spreading the gospel in trying to do so with them, and they kidnapped them and kill them in a satanic ritual and then go across the country.

And I've started to say they did that, they stole, they did all this just to get a van, which was true. They did it to get the van.

And maybe that was the initial motivation.

But then the neighbor or a person fairly close by was working on,, I think a water tower on a hill, was able to hear them

laughing and gleeful and all this going on.

And that conjures up in my mind them around these people

as they're shot on the ground and they're,

I'm not gonna say dancing around them,

but I don't, you know, but they are around them

and shooting them and enjoying themselves. Well, I just don't see how you get any more evil.

...you know, Hey everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess, the Southern True Crime podcast.

I'm Karen here with Stu.

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So tonight, we are going to be talking about the Lily Lid murders and these were a family

these were this was a family the family of four that was taken in their own van taken out shot

and only one of the children survived and it was perpetrated by six teenagers.

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