you know, I gave my dog, I have a six-month-old mini Aussie, and he's in a really fun chewing phase.

And so I've taken to hiding toys within other toys within other toys. And I'm seeing that over time, he's solving these puzzles faster.

So could we say that he's remembering? And if so, what does that actually mean when it comes to

contingencies?

Let's da, da, da training nerds. You're listening to Drinking from the Toilet.

And I'm your host, Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, profoundly forgetful human, and author of the book, Awesome Obedience, and its companion Awesome Obedience,

The Field Guide, both of which you can pick up right now from clickertraining.com. They even make good

gifts, I've heard. And before we get started, I want to make sure to remind you that on December

6th, I will be joined by three of the most brilliant trainers in the positive training world for a live

event all about

cues, stimulus control, and fading prompts in your training. So I know everything, everything in

that area I'm kind of excited about. So Sharag Patel, Eva Bertelsen, Emily Johnson-Vag and I will be

working dogs live on screen and talking about all of these concepts. And if you would like to join

the discussion, see some live unscripted training where absolutely anything can happen,

check out the link in the show notes. Or you can go to my website, hannah branigan.org,

and you can read more about it, our behind the scenes event. And yes, it will be recorded for you

to watch whenever you want as many

times as you want until the apocalypse progresses to the point where the infrastructure of the

internet totally collapses, in which case, there's not a lot that I can do. But until then,

it's all yours. So this week, we are talking with Stephanie Kesey Phelan about memory as behavior,

which, like, what does that even mean?

How does that sentence make any sense? Well, it's actually a really cool way to look at memory,

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