I think thinking about all the stuff that if we were doing it in a laboratory, that we would consider and keep track of, well, at the very least we could keep track of some of those things in real life training.

And then that would be at least fewer things on the list of stuff that we can't control and don't know about.

I know one could drive themselves nuts.

I don't have anything about that.

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