Hi, NesQ listeners, producer Rebecca here.

We're off this week celebrating Thanksgiving.

So we're coming to you with two conversations from the NesQ Archive that speak to a couple of the major themes of the holiday season, friendship and food.

The first half of the show is a replay of the very first episode that Mike and Angela ever recorded

together, and the second half is a conversation between Angela and chef and author Gabriel Hamilton.

We hope you enjoy listening to these old favorites,

and we'll be back next week with a brand new episode.

No, really? Men want to have friends.

I'm Angela Duckworth. I'm Mike Mann and you're listening to no stupid questions.

Today on the show, how do you make friends as an adult?

People are kind of like, I'm good. I don't want anybody else. Mike Mon I am on a scale from 0 to 10. I want to say 11 in excitement to talk to you today

about something that we both care about and that is friendship.

That is something we care about and something that we have.

Exactly.

So Minnie, who's one of our listeners, writes to us with the following question, I would like to know if it becomes

difficult to make close friends not acquaintances as you grow older, especially in

your 40s and beyond. And by the way, Mike, this idea of making

close friends, even in mid-adulthood, it kind of is us. I agree. I mean look I feel very lucky to count you as among my dearest friends.

I also think that it's an interesting question and I think you and I probably approach it a little differently.

You've told me that I think I'm your most recent good friend, is that fair?

Yes, that is accurate and I haven't made another really good friend since then, so you're still the reigning champion

in the Olympics of Angela's recent good friends.

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