I see in-house and predictability in that that slow boat to I don't know nowhere or retirements ahead of me and I know that like my family will be taking care of and going out on my own which is my dream and my goal and where I think we have the most

potential to do better, there's a lot of uncertainty there.

So I guess what I'm really challenged with is introducing uncertainty into the lives of my family for what feels like my own professional gain. I'm Greg Gunn. interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business.

I'm Greg Gunn.

Are you familiar with the term Golden Handcuffs?

It's a phrase that refers to financial incentives given to employees to make them stick around.

Because when you have everything you need, why would you ever want to leave?

In this episode, we talk with someone who's been wearing their golden handcuffs for a while and is thinking about making a big career move but he's conflicted his job is it pays well, and that's good for his family.

For all intents and purposes, he's doing just fine. But is fine enough, or without any room to grow in his current position.

Is he just riding a slow boat to nowhere?

The conversation you're about to hear is from 2018. Now the world feels like a very different place but our

guest's dilemma remains the same. Are golden handcuffs worth it? Well let's do the math and find out. Please enjoy our conversation with

illustrator, graphic designer, and future pro-group member Anthony Banks.

Let's just jump right into it.

Before I forget, for people who don't know who you are, can you just introduce yourself really quickly?

Sure.

Hi, I'm Anthony Banks. I am an illustrator and graphic designer in Nebraska. I have a beautiful wife, two amazing kids.

Oh, how old are they? They are five and nine. Oh, how old are they? Oh, they are five and nine. Oh, oh, five and ten.

Five and ten just recently. Boy and girl? Two boys. Two boys.

Two boys. Okay, whoa. I know what that's like. Okay, why don't we just do this? Why don't we just jump into what's on your mind today?

All right, so how about this? I've been a in and out of the outhouse or the in house as a graphic designer for a long time and as I got married and as we started having kids, the being in-house was just became very attractive you know there's consistency and the

demands on your time between nine and five it's pretty predictable which really

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