Hey everyone, Vancouver Radio, episode number 145 I hope.

He says that, I'm doing a lot of traveling this summer, so I'm trying to pre-record as much as possible so if I get it wrong I apologize

we're only human anyway today as usual I've got someone far more intelligent on the

show than me he's done a lot of cool stuff. He's written a book. He's been in the

pharmaceutical world. He's done MSCs. Yeah, he's way more brainy than me.

Aiden Goggins, hello.

Hey man, great to be here.

Um, mate, uh, there's going to be a lot of people here who have no idea who you are.

We need to do it.

Tell everyone who Aiden Goggins is.

Okay, so I guess really to start out in pharmacy.

I work in the pharmacy industry initially and then I moved into community pharmacy.

I guess it became somewhat disillusioned with that and with the answers we were getting and the solutions and the therapies.

So I went on, I was always interested in nutrition so I went

on in my MSC in Nutritional Medicine, I went sorry. And from then then I

kind of specialized in using nutrition and drugs together and then after I got a great opportunity to write the book with my colleague

Glenn Martin which was the health delusion and then it just kind of appeared from there it went into clinics for treating people

with chronic disease who were getting satisfactory answers through norm and through the normal

routes and then it just kind of took a massive U-turn then about the last 18 months or so when I think it's just being this big change in the world of transporting nutrition.

So again, we moved into sports nutrition where athletes are moving on from just standard performance

nutrition and what they want to sustain outcomes

and what they're realizing is that they're not in optimal health,

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