Attention, attention, action this day. You are listening to We Have Ways of Making You Talk,

the Second World War podcast with me, Al Murray and James Holland. And well, this is our

day three, James. You see this is the thing. When you're under this much pressure, the

day's bleed into one another and you can't remember what day it is. And we are, of course,

talking about the evacuation at Dunkirk, the battles surrounding it, the legacy, the whole

thing, the whole Shebang. And today is in May the 28th. So we are talking about the events

of May the 28th, 1940. So James, the timeline today.

Yeah. So it's a Tuesday. And we've had that really critical day, Monday the 27th, which,

you know, as you know, Al, I kind of believe is the closest we have ever got to lose in the

war. This is a kind of, it's a day, it's another day of crisis for Churchill, the 28th of May.

But it's also one where there is just the first glimmer of hope. And it started in the very

early hours of the day, because this is when the first ship leaves the East Mall. And this

is the Queen of the Channel, which gets, gets underway a little before 3 a.m. in the morning.

Now, it is then probably sunk out at sea at 415 a.m. However, it's not sunk sufficiently

badly that that Wolfhound and others can't come alongside and rescue every single person.

So not a single person is killed in that, if I think I remember rightly. But so, and certainly

if it is, it's very, very small numbers of people are killed. So, and by 445 a.m., the second

ship leaves East Mall. And by 955 a.m., the third ship leaves East Mall. And suddenly this

is, this is the big hope. To reiterate, the East Mall is like a mile long.

Yeah, so it stands out about, yeah, about a mile out at sea. And it is, and it is basically

a lattice work wooden structure on concrete piles. And how wide is, how wide is the

walkway on the top of the mall? Oh, well, in my memory, I'm going to say not more than

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