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WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

144. Dunkirk - Day Four

WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

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Society & Culture, History, Education

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

It’s a hugely significant day as 47,000 men are lifted from Dunkirk, but as the remaining soldiers run out of water on the beach they raid the cellars of local bars with predictable results. Al and James are joined by Pierre-Samuel Natanson, a military historian, who offers a French perspective on events.


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0:00.0

Attention, attention, action this day. It is May the 29th, 2020, but we are looking

0:16.0

back as ever at the events of 1940. That critical week, the most important week in human

0:22.3

history. This is the universe. The evacuation of the B.E.F. from Dunkirk. And well, what a thrilling

0:33.9

week it's been. And yesterday was May the 28th, when the Cabinet crisis was sealed with

0:40.2

these words, James Holland, what was it church? Well, the killer, the killer power gov.

0:46.8

And I would defy anyone in that cabinet not to kind of be behind him at this point. He

0:50.8

said, we shall go on. We shall fight it out. And if our long island story is to end, it

0:56.6

will better it should not through surrender, but only when we are rolling senseless on the

1:02.5

ground. I mean, boss. Yeah, forget it. I'm not surrendering. I'm driving it, but I'm driving

1:10.4

the darraman back. And before we can do that, that's all right by you. Just quickly before

1:16.3

I don't, then testing my eyes. Right. Okay. So, so May the 29th, yesterday, yesterday, the

1:23.7

evacuation was starting to get moving. The Cabinet crisis ends. We've heard from my, from my

1:28.5

father, Ingram about what happened to the, the Bucks battalion and my grandfather, my mother's

1:32.8

father, who he says was, because he was the Adjutant, he was on a motorbike apparently, my grandfather,

1:38.0

going really instrumental in keeping the battalion cohesive. And all the old boys, when they went

1:43.1

over in 2000 and did the tour there, all the old boys said that my grandfather, an easy smile,

1:48.6

was always smiling and that really, really helped. And he sort of think, God, bloody hell. Anyway,

1:52.7

what a guy. I mean, he was obviously amazing. And, and I know, I know measures the other day,

1:56.9

but I mean, you know, as a grandson, thinking of your grandfather dying in the Second World War,

2:04.2

beatling around on a motorbike and going down with his Bren gun, firing from the hip. That's

2:09.4

kind of doesn't get better than that. Yes, yes, it's well, yeah. I mean, I, and I saw, I spoke to

2:15.1

my mum about this the other day and, and she said, well, yes, you know, it's, it's an extra,

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