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Listening to America

#1413 Jefferson the Lawyer

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Listening to America

Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2020

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Thomas Jefferson practiced law from 1767 until early 1774. Much of his work involved land disputes, however one case in April of 1770 found him acting pro bono defending Samuel Howell, a mixed-race man being held as an indentured servant because his grandmother was white and his grandfather black. He lost the case, but argued that "under the law of nature, all men are born free." This week Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) answers questions submitted to him by an incarcerated person.

Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.

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0:00.0

Good day, Thomas Jefferson, our podcast listeners, and as always, thank you so much for listening.

0:07.6

We're glad you're with us today, really a remarkable program, David.

0:12.5

We received out of the blue a letter from a prisoner in one of our systems,

0:18.0

in one of our penal systems, and also I received a letter from his mother.

0:23.2

And she passed on questions that her son had, he'd written in prison,

0:28.6

that he'd like Thomas Jefferson to address.

0:31.0

And I was delighted by this, the idea that someone in a prison somehow has access

0:37.1

to the Thomas Jefferson hour and took the time to want Mr. Jefferson to weigh in

0:41.2

on certain judicial questions.

0:42.6

I just think there's something magnificent about that and really redemptive.

0:47.5

And so it moved me deeply.

0:48.9

And so today we take his questions, you put most of them, not all of them to me

0:53.2

and Mr. Jefferson answered them.

0:55.6

But my friend Lynn Novak, you know, Lynn Novak of the Ken Burns world.

1:00.9

I don't know her, but I certainly know of her.

1:02.8

She's an amazing human being.

1:05.2

She, truly, a genius.

1:07.2

And she, well, tell people who she is.

1:09.1

Well, she's just, I'm sorry, she's Ken Burns partner.

1:12.2

She's, she produced baseball.

1:14.4

She produced a lot of jazz.

1:17.4

She did most of Vietnam.

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