Good day, Thomas Jefferson Hour podcast listeners, and as always, thank you so much for listening.

And those of you who have chosen to support the show via JeffersonHour.com, the 1776

Club, or however you decide to, we thank you so much for that.

Boy, are we lucky to have Joseph Ellis pop in to this show?

The conversations between you and he, Claire, well, they're timeless, they're priceless,

they're just great.

And this week, Joe comes on to talk about his book, His Excellency on George Washington.

This is a great conversation this week.

Well, he's writing a kind of a synthesis of his life's work now, and he's going back

and dipping into his books and rereading sections of them and trying to sort of see what he,

what if anything, he still needs to say that he's never had a chance to say, and if he's

rethought some of his positions and so on.

And so when we began having these conversations with him back in March, when the pandemic

struck, I thought, here's this extraordinary award-winning, distinguished American historian.

And he's retired.

But I wanted to debrief him, get a chance to really talk with him about the main body

of his life's work and to share that with our listeners.

I just think that he's an extraordinary man.

He's very funny.

He's witty.

He's genial.

Many people would submit to this.

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