we're teaching the handlers to look for that instant stillness.

Yeah.

With that, Jules calls it the bubble above the dog's head, where they saying, what?

Yeah?

Yeah.

And that's the opportunity. Hey there, fellow training nerds.

You're listening to drinking from the toilet, and I'm your host, Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of the book, Awesome Obedience, The Field Guide,

which you can get any time you like by going to clickertraining.com. This week we're talking with two

brand new guests, Jules Morgan and Helen Phillips from the UK, about gun dog training,

and particularly what reinforcers are in play

when working in the field. This is an area of dog sports that I am pretty much totally ignorant about.

I don't hunt and I have no plans to start. But one of the things that I really love is discovering

how much overlap there is when it comes to applying good training principles to so far,

pretty much any sport or type of dog or training context. And I always learn or discover new

ways that I can think about my current training challenges when I'm talking to someone who's

working in a different area, but kind of coming from the same place. Turns out good training is good training. You'll see or, or I guess actually here, what I mean,

but first I want to thank Kylie W. and Rebecca H for supporting the podcast on Patreon. If you would

like to support the podcast, you can go to patreon.com slash DFTT. So let's talk about our guests. I'm going to put their full bios in the show notes.

They are both highly accomplished trainers. And so I want you to make sure to click over there and

read about all the details of what they've been up to and their education and their qualifications

because they are lengthy. Importantly, Jules and Helen run the Gun Dog Trainers Academy in the UK, which offers courses

for handlers and gun dog training instructors, both in person and online, which gets more

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