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Gender: A Wider Lens

140 - Gender: A Wider Lens Live from Denver with Chloe Cole

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to a special edition of Gender: A Wider Lens podcast! Recorded live from Genspect’s The Bigger Picture Conference in November 2023 from Denver, CO, USA with special guest in-person appearance from the delightful detransitioner, Chloe Cole. Hear Chloe share candidly about her journey through gender transition and detransition. From the challenges of societal expectations and the pressure to conform to gender norms, to the emotional impact of undergoing hormone therapy and a double mastectomy all before the age of sixteen. Chloe opens up about the highs and lows of her trans identity experience. Discover how she navigated the complexities of self-discovery, faced online backlash, and eventually found purpose in advocating for detransitioners' rights. Gain insights into her aspirations beyond the gender discourse, including her passion for creativity, fashion, and the desire to build a family. This raw and honest conversation sheds light on the often untold aspects of the transgender journey, offering a unique perspective on resilience, self-rediscovery, and the pursuit of a meaningful future.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:05.0

And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:09.0

Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we probe the gender landscape within contemporary culture.

0:18.0

And we consider the implications of prioritizing personal identity over other aspects of the self.

0:25.0

This is the thinking person's take on gender.

0:28.0

Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.

1:03.5

You're very welcome to this special edition of Gender A Wider Lens and we are delighted to welcome Chloe Cole to our podcast. So Chloe, we have been so looking forward to talking to you for some time and I think the fact that it lined up with this event is just really lovely. So as I was saying to you a moment ago,

1:05.8

it's just gonna be a normal intimate conversation

1:08.4

where you tell us about a lot of personal details

1:10.6

in front of a ton of people and a live streaming audience normal stuff.

1:15.0

Pretty standard.

1:16.0

Yeah, pretty standard.

1:18.0

I mean, I imagine many people here do know about your story,

1:22.0

but we'd like to actually go through it again and

1:25.4

understand where you were emotionally and psychologically throughout your

1:30.8

childhood as your dysphoria developed and then also about the kind throughout your

1:35.0

story, like, how did you develop, and then also about the kind of care that you received.

1:36.0

So can you just kind of tell us your story?

1:40.0

How did all of this emerge for you?

1:43.4

As a kid, I mean, especially as I got older,

1:47.3

I did have quite a bit of a tomboyish street,

1:49.2

especially in terms of my sense of humor

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