So it's extraordinary that of all things self-idee could get into sports because you can't self-idee into anything with sports.

No. On that basis, could I ask you, how do you bring it up?

Because you must talk to lots of coaches and lots of managers and lots of sporting professionals who are working in the industry who are so trained in that mindset?

How do you bring it up and how do you say what's going down? This isn't. in that

How do you bring it up and how do you say what's going down this isn't fair or how do you approach?

Yeah.

Well Eddie let's go back to your analogy about like the rigid expectations of sport and the specific you know look

at the lines on a football field I I've said this to a couple of coaches like look at the

lines on a football field like when you're a reality base you have solid lines you know when the person's made a try you or you know a touchdown you know exactly when you made a goal the ball crosses that line there's a line yeah

so you have grids of lines and these are like figurative and literal, like lines.

And I said, when somebody comes along and says,

oh, I've got a better idea, let's call the play field fluid.

So now you're thinking you have a picture of a river and now let's draw a line in that river

And I said it just doesn't work because if something's fluid and allowed to shift so the for the one guy, he makes a touchdown when he gets there. The next

guy makes a touchdown when he gets over here. If you're saying gender is fluid and our identities

are fluid and the rules have to be fluid, you're just, how do you draw a line in a river?

Like tell me how you do that.

That's so good.

This is one of my favorite dinner party conversations. I've ever heard.