14. Piggy's Palace 2: Are serial killers intelligent?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

An excavation reveals horrific truths about Robert Pickton. The bodies of dozens of women are unearthed on a pig farm, many of whom are sex workers and indigenous. Pickton’s defence team argues that he has a low IQ and was used as a pawn. On this episode of Bad People, presenters Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss how Canadian police failed indigenous women and talk to Professor Stephen Hart who worked with the prosecution in the Pickton case to discover what we can really know about one of Canada’s most notorious serial killers. This case is broken into two episodes. This is part two. We highly recommend you listen to part one before tuning into this episode. Warning: This episode contains strong language and references to sexual violence and murder. Archive credits: This episode includes audio from East Van Production’s documentary, The Pig Farm. Reference: Sentencing decision: R v Robert William Pickton [2007] BCSC 2039 Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioning Producer: Hannah Rose Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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0:41.0	Three two one. One.
0:43.0	Just to recap, I feel, because this is a two-parter,
0:49.0	we are in the middle of discussing the largest serial killer investigation in Canadian history.
0:54.8	This is the second episode in this story so if you haven't heard the first episode
0:59.7	stop what you're doing go back and find Piggy's Palace, Part 1,
1:05.6	from BBC Sounds.
1:07.0	I'm Dr. Julia Shaw, a criminal psychologist.
1:09.4	And I'm Sophie Hagen, a stand-up comedian.
1:12.2	Note that we do talk about crime and extreme
1:14.8	violence on this podcast. I mean in this two paths that we've already mentioned
1:18.8	humans on meat hooks and I imagine it'll only get worse but presumably that's why you're
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