I've always had a bias towards action and I feel like I learn really really quickly when I'm acting on things and so my first gut reaction to pretty much anything is so all right let's try it let's see if it works.

I've always had this like level of confidence where I know that I'll be able to figure it out. The Welcome to the future podcast, a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business.

I'm Greg Gunn.

If you've followed the future for a while, then you probably already know today's guest.

He's our chief financial officer, but I'll bet you don't know how he arrived at our company.

And that is what today's episode is all about. In this unique

conversation, Chris interviews Mr. Ben Burns, Stewart of the future, co-builder of

our website, andarded Father of Two.

We'll get to hear Ben's origin story

about how he met Chris and why firing all of his clients

was the best possible move for his business and career.

Ben also talks about his experience in the military and police force

and ultimately why he traded his gun and badge for a mouse and keyboard. Please enjoy your conversation with the

one and only Mr. Ben Burns. All right Ben it's that time of the year where I

think I get into a very contemplative reflective mood and I sit there and I'm talking to people

in the pro group and online and it reminds me of that time when you were one of those people I was talking to and I think it's I think it's

important to highlight to people like that's how Mr. Ben Burns became Mr. Ben Burns and why you're

the guy who's running the machine, the man behind the machine and

making sure that we're profitable. So if you don't mind if we can just wax

nostalgic and take our friends along on a magical ride. Is that okay Ben?

That's totally fine.

Okay. I for one am a little offended that I'm one of those people. I the person I'm the OG person.

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