#137 The Tale of a Tragedy in Newfoundland: The Story Behind "Dear Zachary" [Part 4]
The Killafornia Dreaming Podcast
Roseanne
4.4 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 2 March 2020
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
The Tragic Story Of The 2001 Murder Of Andrew Bagby Followed By The 2003 Murder-Suicide Of Andrew's 13 Month Old Zachary Turner And His Mother Shirley Turner [Part 4]
**KD IS NO LONGER WITH ORBITAL JIGSAW OR BLUBRRY**
WARNING: This episode contains details involving the death of a young child and may be difficult to listen to. Listener discretion is advised.
This is the fourth part of a six part series. If you haven't listened to the first 3 parts, pause this, listen to those first, then come back to this. Zachary Andrew Turner was murdered by the hands of his mother on August 18, 2003 at the age of 13 months. She also was responsible for the murder of Zachary’s father, Andrew David Bagby, 1 year 9 months and 14 days earlier. In this series, we are going to examine the entire timeline from the very beginning to see just how preventable this tragedy should have been, to examine the warning signs that so many people overlooked, and discuss just how fair the justice system should be when it comes to the rights of parents - especially when that parent is actually facing indictment for her child’s father.
SOURCES:
Dear Zachary: A Letter To A Son About His Father By Kurt Kuenne
https://www.childandyouthadvocate.nf.ca/pdfs/turner-v1.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQI0bO9KSw
https://www.ranker.com/list/dear-zachary-timeline/crystal-brackett
https://dearzachary.com/press/Telegraph-Destroyed.pdf
https://medium.com/@lauloulew/the-murder-of-andrew-bagby-9cb717a803a8
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/no-need-for-zachary-turner-to-die-death-review-1.596561
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| 0:00.0 | This episode contains details involving the murder of a young child and may be distressing for some. |
| 0:08.0 | Listener discretion is advised. |
| 0:19.6 | 13 month old Zachary Andrew Turner was left in the care of his mother. |
| 0:25.0 | And it feels like there are a million reasons why he never should have been. And why we, the rest of the world, should never have come to know Zachary, |
| 0:31.0 | and why we should not be here talking about him today. |
| 0:34.0 | Welcome back to the tale of |
| 0:41.0 | the tale of losing Andrew losing Zach Zachary, a California Dreaming Multipart |
| 0:46.0 | series. |
| 0:48.2 | In part three we began to see the early stages of Shirley Turner's mind beginning to spin, how she maneuvered the system, despite |
| 0:56.8 | being under indictment for murder, she was released on bail, and how the public welfare system is doing anything and everything to make sure |
| 1:05.9 | Shirley is well taken care of. |
| 1:08.8 | As the justice system drags its feet, getting her extradited back to the United States |
| 1:14.2 | to face the charge that she murdered Andrew Bagby. |
| 1:18.3 | We left off with Shirley Free and pregnant. |
| 1:35.0 | While Shirley was on bail, she was making a good time of it. She was maintaining an active social life. |
| 1:38.0 | She's regularly out to dinner, taking in movies, shopping with her son. |
| 1:44.0 | She was staying with him for a short period of time at his apartment |
| 1:48.0 | from November of 2001 when she first fled to Canada |
| 1:52.0 | until January of 2002. It was over Christmas time that |
| 1:57.1 | her relationship with her son started to sour and it didn't take long. She sold his computer that he and some of his friends had custom built for $900. |
| 2:08.0 | He was still attending university and of course he needed his computer. |
| 2:12.4 | This was late 2001 so I mean you can get a basic |
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