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The Killafornia Dreaming Podcast

#136 The Tale of a Tragedy in Newfoundland: The Story Behind "Dear Zachary" [Part 3]

The Killafornia Dreaming Podcast

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True Crime, Killers, Non-fiction, Mystery, Justice System, News, Podcast, Criminal, Murder, California, Law Enforcement, Discussion, Crime

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The Tragic Story Of The 2001 Murder Of Andrew Bagby Followed By The 2003 Murder-Suicide Of Andrew's 13 Month Old Zachary Turner And His Mother Shirley Turner [Part 3]

**KD IS NO LONGER WITH ORBITAL JIGSAW OR BLUBRRY**

WARNING: This episode contains details involving the death of a young child and may be difficult to listen to. Listener discretion is advised.

This is the third part of a six part series. If you haven't listened to the first 2 parts, pause this, listen to those first and then come back. Zachary Andrew Turner was murdered by the hands of his mother on August 18, 2003 at the age of 13 months. She also was responsible for the murder of Zachary’s father, Andrew David Bagby, 1 year 9 months and 14 days earlier. In this series, we are going to examine the entire timeline from the very beginning to see just how preventable this tragedy should have been, to examine the warning signs that so many people overlooked, and discuss just how fair the justice system should be when it comes to the rights of parents - especially when that parent is actually facing indictment for her child’s father.

SOURCES:
Dear Zachary: A Letter To A Son About His Father By Kurt Kuenne
https://www.childandyouthadvocate.nf.ca/pdfs/turner-v1.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQI0bO9KSw
https://www.ranker.com/list/dear-zachary-timeline/crystal-brackett
https://dearzachary.com/press/Telegraph-Destroyed.pdf
https://medium.com/@lauloulew/the-murder-of-andrew-bagby-9cb717a803a8
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/no-need-for-zachary-turner-to-die-death-review-1.596561

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0:00.0

This episode contains details involving the murder of a young child and may be distressing for some.

0:07.0

Listen or discretion is advised. 13 month old Zachary Andrew Turner was left in the care of his mother and it

0:21.6

feels like that there were a million reasons why he never should have been.

0:26.4

Why we, the rest of the world, should never have come to know Zachary, and why we should not be here talking about him today.

0:40.0

Welcome back to the tale of losing Andrew,

0:42.8

losing Zachary, a California Dreaming Multipart Series.

0:48.3

In part two, we went through the relationship

0:50.4

between Shirley Turner and Andrew Bagby, the events leading up to his November 5th, 2001

0:56.8

murder, as well as the beginning stages of the investigation that led to Shirley becoming the prime and only suspect in his death.

1:06.6

We left off with her fleeing the United States, heading back to Canada seven days after the

1:11.8

murder. If you have not listened to parts one

1:15.6

and two yet you might want to pause this here and go listen to those first and

1:20.6

then come back to this. We are going to pick it up from there and again I

1:26.4

retrieve this information from the Turner Review and Investigation from

1:30.3

September of 2006 by the Newfoundland and Labrador Child and Youth Advocates Delegate. So on the advice of at least one or maybe two attorneys, according to Shirley, she was told to get in her car and go to Canada.

1:55.0

That isn't exactly what she did though.

1:58.0

She didn't take her car.

2:00.0

She didn't take much of anything,

2:02.0

leaving most of her stuff behind in her apartment.

2:07.3

She abandoned everything and flew to Canada using her Canadian passport.

2:12.2

She arrived in Toronto and checked into a motel. She called

2:16.1

her older daughter, remember she lives in Ontario, Mississauga specifically, which is only 27 kilometers or 17 miles away from Toronto.

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