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Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

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🗓️ 10 September 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Sam Harris speaks with Jonathan Haidt about his new book "The Coddling of the American Mind." They discuss the hostility to free speech that has grown more common among young adults, recent moral panics on campus, the role of intentions in ethical life, the economy of prestige in “call out” culture, how we should define bigotry, systemic racism, the paradox of progress, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're
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0:46.8	Today I'm speaking with Jonathan Height. John is the Thomas Kool-E. Professor of ethical
0:52.3	leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He got his PhD in Social Psychology
0:58.2	from the University of Pennsylvania, and then he taught at the University of Virginia for 16 years.
1:05.1	Yeah, I believe in the Psychology Department. He's the author of the righteous Mind and the
1:10.4	Happiness Hypothesis, and most recently the Coddling of the American Mind with his co-author Greg
1:17.7	Lukionov. And this is John's second time on the podcast. John and I have a somewhat colorful history.
1:26.6	We now play well together, but that was not always so. I recently went back and looked at some of
1:33.4	our skirmishes in print and was surprised to see how hard we rolled. We really tried to take
1:40.7	each other's head off, but this is an example of a collision that ultimately worked out. There are
1:47.2	people who I've fought pretty hard with in the past where our debate over ideas definitely
1:55.7	slipped the bounds of collegiality. This happened with my friend Dan Dennett, about free will,
2:02.2	and it happened with Sean Carroll, the physicist, but then further conversation got us back on track.
2:09.1	Of course, there have been other skirmishes where the outcome seemed to cancel all possibility of
2:17.7	future conversation. Admittedly, it's hard to know when that point has been reached.
2:23.9	I'm hearing rumors, for instance, that Noam Chomsky may want to do a podcast, and that's an
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