#136 — Digital Humanism

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.6 • 29.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2018

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Sam Harris speaks with Jaron Lanier about the economics, politics, and psychology of our digital lives. They discuss the insidious idea that information should be free, what we should want from an advanced economy, the role of advertising, libertarianism in Silicon Valley, the problems with social media, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're
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0:46.8	I am here with Jaren Lanier. Jaren, thanks for coming on the podcast.
0:50.3	Thanks for having me. Well, again, thank you for your patience in overcoming a
0:55.4	surprising number of technical or deals to get this conversation happening. This is just ironic
1:00.7	because you are among the more technical guests, and yet we collectively have some bad technical
1:05.5	karma. Hopefully we've purged that problem and we can move forward. Yeah, I've been meaning to
1:10.1	talk to you about your irrational belief in karma. Yeah. And I don't know where this comes from, but
1:16.8	I don't think there is really such a thing in our world. Although in my old startup, the engineer
1:22.4	has accused me of having some weird psychic feel that caused demos to crash, especially on important
1:27.4	occasions. Well, I believe them. You're reputation-precision. Yeah. Well, okay. Well, let's jump in
1:33.4	because I know your time is short and precious, and we have around an hour here, and a lot to talk
1:39.1	about. So I just want to plow on. But before we start, can you just describe what you do? How do
1:45.7	you summarize your career at this point for people who are unfamiliar with you? Oh, I make no attempt
1:51.0	to do that. Nordow, I have any motivation to accept it in somebody like you asks me, but I've
1:56.9	done a few things. I'm a computer scientist. I started the field of virtual reality approximately
2:03.0	after the founder of computer graphics really started it, which was I've in southern
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