I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for their drive to work at home edition.

And so I like to use the time to do interviews. So today I have just dunks the magic rules architect.

We're going to talk about something that either I think some of you don't know or you've heard of,

but don't know exactly how it works, which is we're going to go into layers today,

which is a very important, but I will say, somewhat complex rules topic.

So before we dive into that, Jess, magic rules architect, that's a new title for you.

I want to talk a little about that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was promoted to Magic Rules Architects, I think last year some time.

And it's the main difference between Rules Manager, which is the title I held before, is kind of, I lead the, we have a team now that handles rules management as opposed to just one person.

I lead the work that that team does.

And I tend to do more work now with interfacing with other teams about how things in magic touch the magic rules.

Our team, by the way, is Eric Levine and Eliana Rabinowitz. They are fantastic at doing

rules management work. I love working with them. They're great. Okay. So my intro today is one of the

reasons that layers is very important from a magic design standpoint is there are things we can't do.

And here's the classic example I give,

which is if I want to make a spell that says

all blue creatures gain flying,

I can do that, no problem.

I can make that spell.

But if I want to make a spell to say all flying creatures are blue,

all of a sudden, no, I can't do that.

And a lot of people don't understand, you can do anything.

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