I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning

that you might be a treasure

I could touch but never hold

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Soap Before podcast.

Ooh, I've got a frog in my throat.

This is Veronica Valley.

You have.

Who is it again?

Right at the most inconvenient moment. Well, we'll presume it's

Veronica Valley, yes. Veronica, not Valerie Valley. Yeah. And you wonder why people get your name

confused. Who are you? I'm Chip Summers and I got that right. Okay. Well, after that,

shambolic start to the program.

Welcome to the podcast.

We have an interesting topic for you today.

It's called Why We Count Days.

And we're going to be talking about a lot of things.

A few people have kind of asked me this.

It's an interesting subject to explore why we count our sobriety days. We're going to be

talking about length and depth of sobriety before and after and about how when people relapse,

and I don't even like that word, are shamed and blamed for it. So we're going to deconstruct

all of that. So before we start, I want you guys to know

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