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So money episode 1330, the myth of imposter syndrome and racial disparities that feed the pay gap

with Ruchika Tulshin author of Inclusion on Purpose.

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If you are in a space where you do not belong and it is clear that no matter what you do,

you're in your A game, you're doing all the work, you show up prepared, you're over-prepared,

and when you show up and you know you're not going to get the value and the respect that you

deserve, it is much better to walk out the door. Have you ever felt like you don't belong?

Have you ever experienced imposter syndrome? I'm raising both of my hands right now.

It happened to me as a kid. It's happened to me many times as a woman. Our guest today is going

to give us a lot of help with that. Ruchika Tulshin is an award-winning inclusion strategist.

She's a former business journalist. She's the CEO of Kander, which works with organizations to

create diverse teams and inclusive cultures. And very excitingly, she has a new book out this month,

Women's History Month. It's called Inclusion on Purpose, an intersectional approach to creating

a culture of belonging at work. In the book, there's a whole section where she discusses pay

inequality for women, specifically women of color, as well as salary transparency, inclusive

job offers, and circumstances when inclusion matters more than pay. We touch on all of us in our

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