#133: On The Case of "Evil Genius' with Fitz Finale

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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The Real Crime Profile team (Laura Richards, Lisa Zambetti and Jim Clemente) conclude their illuminating discussion with retired FBI profiler and forensic linguist James "Fitz" Fitzgerald who worked on the original case when he was in the FBI. More profiling, detailed analysis and insight about he bank heist, the 9 page letter and the murder of Brian Wells.

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0:00.0	Hey, prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:08.0	I admit I wondered a few times. Why was I building rapport with this person? A criminal who'd murdered two boyfriends
0:16.0	and whose husband died in a suspicious home accident?
0:20.0	Plus there was a questionable mental state.
0:23.0	The New York Angel of Murphy, you really are right. I don't know which one's like. I really do appreciate the bottom line
0:28.0	I heard everything he's done. And those books really do distract me from a bit of feel here.
0:33.0	Marge mentioned Brian Wells. It's not like we didn't measure his neck for the collar.
0:53.0	It wasn't a dramatic thing. It was just another sentence to her. And Kelly and I shot each other a look at that time.
1:03.0	I got up and walked away from the table. And Kelly came up behind me a little bit later. I was just kind of pacing the room.
1:12.0	We weren't allowed to do much of anything else. And I was just kind of walking around the room. And Kelly came up and she goes,
1:18.0	did you hear what she just said? And I looked at her and I said about measuring Brian Wells for the collar. Yes, I did.
1:25.0	I said, and I don't want to know anymore.
1:27.0	I absolutely believe that Marjorie Dillarmstrong is the mastermind behind the Brian Wells killing.
1:37.0	Hello and welcome to Real Grime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler and writer producer of CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today in the studio is...
1:48.0	Nora Richards, former criminal behavioral analyst, knew Scott Dignard and found of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
1:55.0	And then Lisa Zimbetti, I'm the casting director for CBS Criminal Minds, where I cast the victims, FBI agents, psychopaths, everything in between.
2:02.0	Well, today we're with our very favorite special guest.
2:08.0	Favorite and special. I like that. Jim Fitzgerald here, retired profiler and current forensic linguist, consultant, author, all those things. Great to be back with you guys.
2:18.0	Well, we are talking about what is one of the most groundbreaking series that we've watched because it was so intricate and so engaging and in four short hours.
2:31.0	It was four episodes, yeah, which isn't a huge amount.
2:34.0	No, it isn't, but there's so much that happens in that four short hours that it just really blew us away.
2:41.0	So we're so happy that our listeners suggested it and we're going to wrap up our coverage of this series today with Jim Fitzgerald.
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