#132: On The Case of “Evil Genius” with Jim Fitzgerald

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2018

⏱️ 38 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

The #RCP team are joined by special guest ret. FBI profiler and forensic linguist Jim “Fitz” Fitzgerald who continues to share his insights from his work on the case and his analysis of the 9 page letter.

The team weigh in on the next twist in the case “the frozen body in the freezer” and debate Marjorie Diel-Armstrong’ relationship with Bill Rothstein, along with the catalyst for Marjorie’s “fall from grace”.

Don’t miss our latest episode analysing the twists and turns of the Netflix true crime docuseries “Evil Genius: The True Story Of America’s Most Diabolical Bank Heist.”

#HisNameWasBrianWells

This Episode of Real Crime Profile is brought to you by QUIP

Go to GETQUIP.com/RealCrime to get your first refill pack FREE.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	This man walks into the bank and he had this thing under his sweatshirt.
0:15.0	It looked like a shoe box and I'm looking at him. I couldn't figure out why he had that box.
0:22.0	But he walks over to the teller and he gives a teller a white envelope.
0:30.0	To me, he looked like he was well, he was sort of scared.
0:36.0	We also learned that the motivation for this robbery really came from Marjorie Deal Armstrong herself.
0:52.0	We learned that Armstrong had a plan to kill her father. She allegedly hired Barnes to do that and then plan to pay him with the money that Brian Wells robbed from the bank.
1:02.0	Also another player that was in this web is William Rossstein. That's a person that he heard about a lot.
1:08.0	And apparently he was Deal Armstrong's longtime handyman. In the indictment it says the Deal Armstrong and Barnes actually met at Rothstein's house on Peach Street and really discussed the bank robbery a day before it happened.
1:21.0	And Rossstein was also the individual who allegedly called Brian Wells to deliver the pizza up to those television transmitter towers.
1:30.0	But as far as Barnes and Deal Armstrong go, they actually will go to prison or could go to prison for life.
1:37.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler and right producer on CBS's Criminal Minds.
1:47.0	And with me today in the studio is Laura Richards, former criminal behavioral analyst, New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
1:55.0	And I'm Lisa Zembede and the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.
1:58.0	And we are very lucky to have again with us my favorite former colleague and friend.
2:05.0	Fitz also known as Jim Fitzgerald. Hi Jim, hi Laura, I Lisa.
2:10.0	Hi Fitzgerald, great to have you all.
2:13.0	Great to be back.
2:14.0	Well, we're back right in the middle of the discussion about the Netflix series Evil Genius.
2:18.0	And you were telling us about the letter and and how unusual it was in your experience as it was in my experience working bank robbery cases.
2:28.0	So what else can you tell us that this letter might reveal about the profile of the offender or offenders in this case?
2:37.0	Well, of course, a letter in and out of itself can never be taken in a vacuum.
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Real Crime Profile / Wondery, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Real Crime Profile / Wondery and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.