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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1324: New Phyrexia

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Magic The Gathering, Games, Mark Rosewater, Ccg, Leisure, Mtg, Game Design

4.7801 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

This podcast is another in my ongoing quest to talk about every Magic expansion. In it, I talk about the third set in the Scars of Mirrodin block, New Phyrexia.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm pulling my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

0:06.4

Okay, so in my ongoing quest to talk about every single expansion, I'm now up to New Forexia,

0:13.0

which was the third set in the original Miriden. I don't know, in the original Scars of Meriden,

0:18.4

not the original. The Scars of Meridian block. Okay, so a quick recap, just to talk about how we got to New Phrexia. So originally, the fall set Scars of Mirrenren, was supposed to be Newferexia. The idea was we were just going to show up in Newferexia, and then at the end of the set realized oh my goodness this was formerly mirrored in

0:39.2

um i really had a hard time trying to understand how like that was three different sets and

0:45.2

i really struggled with it and eventually i came to realize that new phrexia shouldn't be the

0:50.3

first set it should be the last set and i pitched this idea to bill and said said, what if we come back to Myrdon, so return to Myrdodon, but we now realize the phrexings are here, which we know from the path. They're Magic's first villain, back in Antiquities. And then, in the second set, we have a giant war that the set is like half and half and that it's a pre-release we could actually

1:11.9

you could choose your side and then the final set would be the outcome of that war new phrexia

1:16.9

and then bill made one proposal uh bill said well what if we don't tell the players the outcome

1:23.2

what if we actually pitch the set as one of two sets that it could either be be mirrored in pure, which means Mirridin wins the war, or it can be new phorexia, which means ferrexia wins the war. Now, it was always going to be new phrexia. There was no way for us to, like we had to make the set. But the idea was we didn't have to tell the audience and we could keep some suspense. So we did not announce the actual name of the set until a couple weeks before the set came out.

1:50.0

Obviously, once previews started, but just a smith of before previews.

1:54.0

So the idea, meaning stores actually ordered the product, not knowing the name of the product,

1:59.0

you're ordering either this or that. It's going to be one of those two things. And we told people pretty late. Although, as we'll get

2:06.1

into, this set got leaked. Somebody in the French office had access and didn't realize. Anyway,

2:15.3

the whole set got leaked before it came out,

2:17.9

which was not ideal.

2:20.2

Okay, anyway, so this was codename action.

2:23.2

So the block was Lights Camera Action.

2:26.4

Scars American was Lights.

2:29.6

What was the middle set before New Phrexia?

2:32.2

Was dark, not Darksteel.

2:34.1

That's the... Was that right? No, no, Was dark, not dark steel. That's the, um, was that right?

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