#1309: Subgames
Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast
Wizards of the Coast
4.7 • 801 Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
In this podcast, I talk about a very narrow type of design: Magic cards that interrupt the game and initiate a subgame.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm pulling my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for the drive to work. |
| 0:06.4 | Okay, today is subgame day. So subgames, I'm going to talk about something that doesn't exist on very many cards. |
| 0:15.4 | I think technically there are four cards that have subgames and a fifth card that's kind of an honorary sub-game card, which I'll talk about. |
| 0:23.1 | So today we're talking about what sub-games are, why they came up, why we keep making them, but in everything you ever wanted to know about sub-games. |
| 0:32.7 | And do I have 30 minutes of topics on sub-games? |
| 0:36.1 | Well, obviously, if you're listening to this, they do. |
| 0:37.7 | But I, as I'm recording this, do not know whether or not you'll hear this because I don't know if I have 30 minutes on sub-games, but I'm going to try. Once you start getting into the 1,200-plus, I'm very eager on trying new topics I've never done before. So sometimes I pick things that, I don't know if I have 30 minutes, |
| 0:56.1 | but I'm going to give it my best effort. Okay, so let's start with the granddaddy of sub-games. |
| 1:03.9 | Well, what, I guess, let me first describe what a sub-game is. What a sub-game is, is you stop playing the current game of magic you are playing. |
| 1:13.9 | Usually you use, so far on every card, you use your library. |
| 1:18.5 | You leave that game aside. |
| 1:20.6 | Then you take your library and go start a brand new game with your library. |
| 1:25.4 | And then usually, or at least on the cards we made so far, the winner of the subgame |
| 1:30.4 | earns something in the main game, something that will help them in the main game. |
| 1:35.2 | That is the general idea, that you're going to stop playing the current game of magic |
| 1:39.3 | and play this little pocket game of magic, and then when you're finished with that, come back. |
| 1:44.3 | Now, designing subgames, so basically, I've designed all the subgames, save the very first one, |
| 1:51.7 | which Richard Garfield did, but we'll get to that in a second. |
| 1:54.8 | I'm a huge fan of subgames. |
| 1:56.5 | I like subgames. |
| 1:57.2 | They're fun. |
| 1:58.4 | They, as we'll discuss today, pretty much fall into un-territori. In fact, other |
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