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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1308: Lorwyn Eclipsed Vision Design

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Magic The Gathering, Games, Mark Rosewater, Ccg, Leisure, Mtg, Game Design

4.7801 Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast, I talk all about the vision design for Lorwyn Eclipsed.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's another drive to work.

0:06.2

Okay, so today is all about the vision design of Lorwyn Eclipsed.

0:13.1

So let me first do a little setting up of the scene, how we got there. Many years ago,

0:20.0

Bill Rose informed me.

0:23.2

We had previously done during Ravnik a block, we had done a fourth block.

0:28.7

We had made a decision not to tie it into the block and made what was called Cold Snap.

0:33.6

I was never super happy with that.

0:36.0

So I said to Bill, the next time you want to do a four-step block, talk to me, I'll integrate it. I'll make it part of the whole block. So Bill came to me, he said, okay, it's time. And so what I came up with was instead of doing like large, small, small, small, like, I said, we need to shake it up a little bit. I don't think we can, we have enough trouble with three sets in a block.

0:57.9

So what if instead of doing one normal block, we did two mini blocks, each of which was a

1:03.9

large set and then a small set.

1:06.0

And then the idea was it'd be set in the same world, but the world would go through some,

1:10.5

some radical change

1:12.5

such that the two mini-blacks were connected but different. And that's when we came up with the

1:17.2

idea of what if the world had some element of, some natural occurrence that fundamentally

1:22.7

changed what the world was. And the low-hanging fruit we liked was light and dark. Lorwin, the idea,

1:31.5

was, had been tagged to be a typel set. And then we ended up coming up with the idea of making

1:37.0

Shadowmore a color matter set with a high hybrid amount. So anyway, we did this. We had their

1:43.9

four sets. There was Lorwyn the large set,

1:46.7

morning tied to small set, Shadamore the big set, even tied to small set. And we brought to the world

1:52.9

Lorwin and Shadowmore. And it didn't go as well as we had hoped. I think Lorwyn, for its time, is the worst selling large set ever in magic.

2:08.6

It didn't get right.

2:09.9

I think the only world that got rated lower in market research was Kamagawa.

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