130. Dr. Dolly Chugh — A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Reckoning With Our Past and Driving Social Change

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Business, Management, Entrepreneurship, Marketing

5.0 • 539 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Why are human beings determined to be good people? Why are we interested in being ethically and morally right? And more importantly, why are we so prone to going off track? If we are so righteous, why is there so much hate and bias in the world? Dr. Dolly Chugh, Social Psychologist and Management Professor at the New York University Stern School of Business, has dedicated her life to answering these existential questions. Her research focuses on “bounded ethicality,” which she describes as the “psychology of good people.” On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dolly and Michael dive into: How to let go of being a good person, and how to become a better person How to fight race and gender bias How to become the person we mean to be Links & Resources: Episode Show Notes Psychology Today Nobel Prize Juneteenth The Tulsa Massacre Internment of Japanese Americans in WWII Little House on the Prairie Jay Van Bavel New York Mets Instagram Angela Duckworth Washington Redskins (Commanders) Anne Frank Martin Luther King, Jr. Barabara Walters The Holocaust Civil Rights Movement Bob Marley The Marley Hypothesis “Buffalo Soldier” The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Isabel Wilkerson Cast by Isabel Wilkerson George Takei Star Trek Franklin Delano Roosevelt The Hero’s Journey

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0:00.0	I don't have to like everything that happens in my country in order to love my country.
0:06.0	When I'm able to see what I don't like, I'm actually able to work on it and make it better.
0:10.0	That's Dolly Chug, social psychologist, behavioral scientist, and best-selling author.
0:14.0	It's our patriotism. It's not something we're just entitled to.
0:18.0	It's something we work towards. And I love the way, that way of thinking about
0:22.6	an active stance to loving our country. I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's
0:33.4	number one law from growth company. I've built my business through practice, not theory.
0:38.2	Crisp started which is $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the
0:42.3	last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.
0:47.9	Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within
0:51.5	our own organization and help the country's most ambitious
0:54.4	and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs.
0:57.1	In each episode of this podcast,
0:58.6	I sit down with innovative market leaders
1:00.4	from the legal industry and beyond
1:02.2	to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,
1:04.7	challenge the status quo,
1:05.9	and define what it means to be a true game changer.
1:09.1	I sat down with Dolly Chug to discuss how guilt and shame can be forces for positive
1:13.6	and impactful change, while developing grit helps us lay the path for a brighter future,
1:18.6	and the importance of reframing our perspective.
1:20.6	If we tell our brains, it's okay for the picture to be a little crooked on the wall,
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