If you're going to seek justice, you have to do justice in the process.

And part of that, for us, that doing good by doing right is to actually support the clients in healing.

That's Eric Chaffin, co-founder and managing partner of Chafin Lulana.

I think within margins we can impact the end result, but we can impact them individually on a more significant level.

I'm Michael Mulberry. result, but we can impact them individually on a more significant level.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm

owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative

market leaders from the

legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the

status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with Eric Chaffin to

discuss how to cultivate a partnership with aligned values, why empathy differentiates good trial lawyers

from great ones, and how to lead a world-class team with a service-oriented culture. If you want to say doing good by doing right, you've got to live by it. You've got to actually follow that path and walk that walk. And so we do that as a firm. We make a conscious decision about what we're going to invest our time and money into and then we go in and we do it.

And that's something I think we're very proud of. That's coming up on the game changing attorney

podcast. Before we begin today's episode, I want to remind you that we aren't beholden to

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Eric Chafin is the co-founder and managing partner of Chafin Lujana, one of the nation's most

respected plaintiffs-only law firms with a national trial practice focusing on representing

injured victims and complex cases. Over the past decade, Chafin Lujana has achieved over a billion

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