Hey there, with pod listeners. Just a little note before we get started today. Today's

conversation centers on the federal death penalty, federal death row and the executions of some

of the people that were on death row in the last days of the Trump administration. It also

ends up detailing the circumstances of related crimes that include abuse, sexual assault, murder,

a lot of pretty harrowing stuff. So just wanted to get everyone's heads up before we get into

the episode.

I think there is a logic to this idea that it's like, okay, you know, we need to preserve it for,

you know, terrorists, this sort of thing. You know, I understand that sort of idea. The irony,

of course, is that at this point, nobody on federal death row is there on terrorism charges

as defined by the Department of Justice. Sarnaya, you know, the Boston Marathon bomber,

his death sentence was vacated over the past several months. So, you know, that's like a very

important and fundamental truth about who is and is not on death row and who wasn't executed

during this spree.

Hello, and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Aes. When you are hearing

this by definition, Donald Trump is not the president of the United States. That's a huge

deal. I think probably feeling some relief, even joy, ecstasis, lots of different feelings

that people have had about that fact. There's a lot of unfinished business, unfortunately,

from that period of time, and we've been sort of dealing with that in the show. Obviously,

there's the, there's the impeachment of the president. There will now be a trial. There

might be other legal pursuits to hold him accountable. But one of the most awful things

that he did, and I think it was, it did not get probably the attention it deserved because

of everything else it was going on, was that Donald Trump and William Barr, after the

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