1283: Kalin Orgill Organ - Losing and Finding One's Self in Search of Truth Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 29 March 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Periodically on Mormon Stories Podcast I try to interview “normal” or everyday Mormons about their faith journey – and in every case these “normal” Mormons turn out to be extraordinarily thoughtful and courageous. Today’s interview is no exception to this rule.
Today on Mormon Stories podcast I am interviewing Kalin Orgill Organ. Aside from Kalin being a super thoughtful and courageous human, Kalin’s story includes several important themes in modern Mormonism:
- Kalin was raised in an orthodox Mormon home in California and in Highland, Utah – with seven siblings.
- She was sexually abused as a child, which possibly awakened her to her own sexuality early than other children.
- She began masturbating as a girl, before she even knew what the term meant. This instigated a multi-year effort between herself, her parents, and her Mormon bishop to try to stop the behavior, and to become “worthy” in God’s eyes.
- Kalin “lost her virginity” as a Mormon teen, which, along with her inability to stop masturbating, only made her feel less worthy.
- Kalin had doubts/questions as a Mormon teen, and even listened briefly to Mormon Stories podcast PRIOR to serving her mission. She fought hard to gain a testimony while on her mission.
- Over time, three of Kalin’s siblings came out to her as LGBTQ, which multiplied her confusion and doubt.
- After returning from a successful Mormon mission, Kalin married her husband Aaron in a Mormon temple, wherein they became to onlookers the “perfect Mormon couple.”
- Over time, after a lifetime of struggling to feel worthy, Kalin’s doubts began to consume her, and she began to contemplate suicide as a Mormon wife and mother of two children.
- Kalin is currently navigating a mixed-faith marriage, and remains an active non-literal believer in her Salt Lake City ward.
This is Kalin’s story – how she lost her orthodox Mormon faith, but found herself (and her own voice) in the process.
You will not be disappointed with this interview. I hope you will join us. And please spread the word if you can!
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| 0:14.0 | So I'm so torn about this because I lived the locustity as a teen, you know, Margie, I saved myself to marriage, Margie and I are faithful to each other. |
| 0:26.0 | And we all know about STIs and TN wanted teenage pregnancy and assault and like all the reasons why it's probably there's probably a lot of good to the church encouraging youth to wait or encouraging you to do their best to wait. |
| 0:46.0 | And so I'm torn because I, there's something that's so beautiful and I lived it of being that Mormon kid that's being righteous and reading the scriptures and serving and going to seminary and saying your prayers and doing good and just dedicating your life to purity or goodness or truth. |
| 1:12.0 | And so I'm so torn because I don't love the collateral damage of all the youth that suffer and even get depression or anxiety or suicidality over not being able to live up. |
| 1:27.0 | And yet when I hear you talk about turning around and becoming a righteous youth, I'm inspired by that. Like I'm like that's one of the best parts about Mormonism is they can pump out kids like you became. |
| 1:40.0 | Like I feel like I, I was for so many years. Do you feel mixed or ambivalent about that or not? |
| 1:47.0 | I do. I feel very conflicted because you know, I again, my experiences having sex as a teenager were not positive. |
| 1:57.0 | They weren't. |
| 1:58.0 | No, they weren't. And you know, I had why not why weren't they positive? |
| 2:02.0 | I was like, I'm a young boy that I that we both lost average and it was like one or two times and it was fine. There wasn't. |
| 2:09.0 | But I started dating a boy who's three years older than me after that, who I also was intimate with. |
| 2:15.0 | And he was very much selfish in in the sexual activities very much made me feel very uncomfortable. |
| 2:28.0 | And I made a do things I was not ready to do or felt comfortable doing. |
| 2:33.0 | And I very much wish that I had not been intimate with him. |
| 2:40.0 | You know, comparing that now to what it's like to be with someone who you're committed to and who you're going to really fight to make things work. |
| 2:48.0 | And if you don't perform well, it's not going to change how you feel about each other. |
| 2:53.0 | There's a whole different feeling that that goes into that level of intimacy that you know has been so much better for me. |
| 3:00.0 | So I feel you know, like I want my kids as best as they can to wait. |
| 3:06.0 | The thing I would change is the connection to your standing before God. |
| 3:10.0 | Let's talk about all the benefits of waiting till marriage. |
| 3:13.0 | Let's talk about some of the harms that happen with premarital sex. |
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