It began long ago, two young boys in an American town riding their bikes to school and

Little League practice. Over the years, the boys became fast friends, united in their love

for stories where things would go horribly wrong. Pour yourself a strong beverage and buckle up. You're in the shallow end with

Schnebly and Toff. Episode 128 of the shallow end with Schnebly and Toth. You guys know, and by

guys, I mean, listeners, I should say you people know. We're not just for males. In fact, I think we have more female subscribers than males.

Oh, we absolutely do because most of the stories that we do are about guys doing stupid things.

Very rarely as a woman.

I was telling you earlier, J.G., that I had breakfast or lunch meal doesn't matter.

I met for a meal last week with our good

friend Townsend Coleman, who, you know, started in radio and then went into television and then

became a rock star. Which voice of the teenage mutant ninja turtles was he? I should know,

but I cannot remember.

Is it Donatello?

He goes to Comic-Conns and signs autographs.

He's in our industry a rock star.

He is a rock star.

But we were talking about the fact that anybody who's ever worked in radio still has the nightmare.

And the nightmare, if you've worked in radio, is that you're either at a station

that you don't know anything about, but you're on the air. You've got to play music. You've got to

play commercials. You've got to play promos. But for some reason, you can't find any of those things.

And so you've got dead air and you're starting to panic and you think,

where are the commercials? Where are the, where's the music? What, maybe if I go out to my car,

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