I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work at home edition.

So I tend to use my home ones to do interviews. And today I have Andrew Brown, the lead set designer for Edge of Eternities, because we're going to talk Edge of Eternities today.

Hey, Andrew.

Hey, Mark, how's it going?

Okay, so you led the set design.

So the audience understands you were also on the vision design.

You were there for the whole time.

Yep.

But we're going to pick up...

There's another podcast with Ethan talking about the vision design.

So we're going to talk about the set design.

So...

Sounds good.

Okay, so mostly when the set design. So... Sounds good. Okay, so mostly, when the set was handed off, all the things that you know in the set

with one big exception, but void and warp and landers were in the set in some form. All of them

would change along the way. And then let's start with the biggest change, because when the set was handed off, Station

wasn't in the set.

We had what we called cosmic cards, which were, the way I described them is imagine a melded

card, but it's one card rather than two cards.

That was what we handed off from Vision.

The idea of giant cards, it was modeled after what

we had done in Transformers, where the transformer boosters literally are larger than normal and come

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