I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work at home edition.

Okay, well, today I've Ethan Fleischer, the vision design lead of Edge of Eternities. So I thought maybe we talked about the vision design of Edge of Eternities. Hey, Ethan.

That is a radical idea, but I think its time has come.

Okay, so, um, so I want to set the scene here.

So Ethan, for years, I mean years, has been pitching a space opera set.

That is true.

We used to, every once in a while, we would have these off-site meetings where people could, like, pitch a magic set.

And I think the very first one that I was at, I pitched the idea of space opera magic set with five planets, one for each color.

So what happened is, I'm part of arc planning where we plan things ahead.

We figured out we're going to do a space set, and I have to go find the vision lead.

I'm like, I know who's leading this product.

So.

Yeah, I definitely am very well acquainted with this genre.

Not only have I seen all of the popular movies and TV shows, but I actually did a lot of,

I'm always interested in the history of things.

And so I went back and read the like foundational texts of the space opera medium.

This was years ago, well before I started working at Wizards.

So I went all the way back to like the 1920s, basically, and read the original novels that

kind of started the whole subgenre.

So anyway, I knew you were well prepared.

So let's start at the very beginning. I mean, you were there for exploratory. So, like, how do we make us face up or set? I don't think I was there for... Oh, you're not there for Exploratory? Just provision? I don't think I was on the Exploratory Design Team. So I just swooped in... I think you did swoop in provision.

Okay.

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