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Today on the show, we're back with Mike Feldstein, founder of Jasper, Mold Slayer, extraordinaire,

and a guy who looks at indoor air the way a Somalié looks at a questionable

gas station Chardonnay might just got back from the aftermath of the LA fires. And the news is not

great. We'll talk about what the smoke actually leaves behind, how long the air stays toxic,

even after the flames go out, and what people are really breathing when the sky looks normal again,

but the particulate count is still doing numbers like a crypto scam. We'll also get into the mold industry's dark side, the fear-mongering, the unnecessary home destruction, and why an entire ecosystem of naturopaths and mold inspectors has turned into a feedback loop of panic about air quality. And if you've ever wondered how your house could be giving you sick home syndrome or what might zucosis for humans, you're in the right place. Then, of course, my favorite

part, the air brain connection, how oxygen and CO2 levels in your home can impact your focus,

your energy, mood, recovery, and while your kid's behavior at school might have more to do with

classroom CO2 than screen time. We're obsessed with breathwork while completely ignoring the air that we actually breathe the rest

of the time, which is kind of like trying to optimize your diet while living on vending machine

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