#12409 Who Are the 144,000 in Revelation, Freemasonry, and Marcianism - Jimmy Akin

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🗓️ 10 October 2025

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“Who are the 144,000 in the book of Revelation?” This episode delves into this intriguing question while also exploring topics such as St. Peter’s understanding of Jesus’ identity, the relationship between Islam and Freemasonry, and the implications of Genesis regarding Ham and his father. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion on these diverse theological inquiries.

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Questions Covered:

01:35 – Who are the 144,000 in the book of Revelation?
22:00 – When St. Peter says Jesus in the Christ, would it be a stretch to say that Peter was the concept of the two powers in heaven?
34:27 – How does the author of John know what Jesus prayed to God the Father in John chapter 17?
37:42 – I can follow the reasoning why Islam worships the same God that we do. But would that same logic apply to Freemasons who worship the “Grand Architect of the universe”?
44:47 – Is it true that when Genesis says Ham saw the nakedness of his father that means Ham slept with his mother? And what does it mean that Shem and Japeth covered their father’s nakedness?

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Catholic Gans was live.
0:17.2	It's Friday.
0:17.8	Jimmy Aikins here with us for both hours.
0:20.0	So get ready for a fantastic program.
0:23.1	I love when we do Bible questions with Jimmy Aiken. I think this might be, if you made me.
0:30.7	Is that what we're doing today? Yeah, we're doing Bible question. Your Bible questions of Jimmy.
0:34.3	Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was just an open forum.
0:58.0	Oh, Edgar was probably supposed to tell you, and he took the day off so that he wouldn't have to get—we can do open for him if you want, but I got a Bible question with you to start. Mm-hmm. Jimmy Aiken, of course, senior apologist here at Catholic Answers, the author of this book that I have in my hand. The Bible is a Catholic book. I picked that one because I thought it was Bible questions with Jimmy Aiken today. And you know, your Bible questions are part of Ask Me Anything, but you can now ask anything you want.
1:03.0	8883187-884 is the number, triple 8387-884.
1:10.0	Jimmy, I have, I came with this Bible question, so I'll open with that while people are getting on the phones,
1:16.6	and then they'll see what people have to say.
1:18.6	And I looked it up where the verse is.
1:20.6	It's in Revelation chapter 7, starting at verse 2.
1:24.6	It says, then I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun saying,
1:30.1	do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads.
1:38.6	144,000 sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel.
1:43.8	So my question is, who is that? Who or what is this verse
1:47.6	talking about? Well, you've mentioned one of two passages where the 144,000 are mentioned in Revelation,
1:56.9	but there is another passage, and we need to read it if we want to get complete data about them.
2:04.0	The other passage, so you read the one in Revelation 7, the other one is in Revelation, well, actually, you need to read more than what you read from Revelation 7.
2:15.4	Okay.
2:16.0	So in Revelation 7, John sees four angels standing on the
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