Welcome, I'm your host, Greg McHugh, and I'm the author of Two New York Times Best

Sellers, Effortless, and Essentialism, and I'm here with you on this journey to learn

how to understand each other.

Have you ever felt seriously stuck in a relationship where the harder you tried, the worse it got?

Today I am thrilled to have one of the wisest people I have ever had the fortune of knowing

to be joining us.

Professor C. Terry Warner, his bookbons that make us free changed my life more than once.

I return to it regularly.

This is part one of two.

Warner shares the story behind one of the most startling discoveries in psychology over

the last 50 years.

By the end of this episode, you will understand what keeps you trapped in the most frustrating

relationships of your life, work, or at home.

Let's begin.

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