Oh, yes, hello, humans of podcast land. Welcome back to Modern Wisdom. My guest today is

Buster Benson and his most recent book, Why Are We Yelling, the Art of Productive Disagreement,

is kind of the beginning of a little lineage, I think, of books about how we have productive

conversations with each other. I know that Scott Adams most recent loser-think book is

kind of similar, just helping people to figure out how their minds work and how they

communicate with other people and how to remove their biases and stuff like that. It's

a really interesting topic. And I think that a lot of this desire for people to have

better conversations stems from the fact that we don't indulge ourselves in these deep,

meaningful chats. If I was to give you a single piece of advice, it would be to try and

sit down with a friend for 30 minutes to an hour, at least once per week, and just

have a discussion, leave your phone outside of the room and just talk about anything,

anything which is meaningful to you or interesting to them, learn to ask questions, and hopefully

the framework that Buster gives us today will help you to mediate things that you don't

agree on and also to find some common ground with new things that you do. So yeah, if you

enjoy it, send it to a friend who can't argue for shit. Please welcome Buster Benson.

You ready to go? Ready? Love like, well, what if I'm not ready? Maybe we should have

an argument about it. We can indeed. And we're going to today, ladies and gentlemen,

welcome back. I'm joined by Buster Benson. Buster, welcome to the show. Thank you. So

glad to be here. As you might have heard, we've been practicing our arguments ready

for you to tune in today, but we are talking about the art of productive disagreement today.

Yes. Or are we? Maybe we talk about something else. Maybe I argue with you and we talk about

something else. And open for whatever you got. I love having a good disagreement. Part

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