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#12194 Is the Papacy Biblical—or Just a Temporary Office? - Joe Heschmeyer

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Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Many Protestants argue the pope was never meant to lead the Church long-term. We examine biblical and historical evidence for the papacy, Peter’s unique role, and how the Church has understood this office from the beginning. Join The CA Live Club Newsletter: Click Here Invite our apologists to speak at your parish! Visit Catholicanswersspeakers.com Questions Covered: 0:03:00 – Is the papacy unbiblical or a temporary office?0:07:30 – Does the Bible ever say Peter went to Rome?0:11:30 – How does 1 Peter 5:13 support Peter’s presence in Rome?0:14:30 – Did Peter and Paul really found the church in Rome together?0:16:30 – Does Paul rebuking Peter disprove papal authority?0:19:30 – Can a pope be fallible or rebuked for his actions?0:23:00 – Is the real Protestant objection that we don’t need structure, sacraments, or hierarchy?0:25:30 – What does the temple veil really mean for Christian worship?0:29:00 – If Jesus is the only mediator, why do we have priests or popes?0:32:30 – Does the Eucharist show that Christian priesthood is still valid?0:36:00 – What’s the real difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy on the papacy?0:39:30 – Is the Pope really just “first among equals”?0:42:00 – What does Irenaeus say about Rome’s authority and apostolic succession?0:45:00 – Did Pope John Paul II suggest the papacy could look different in the future?0:47:30 – Is the complexity of the modern papacy a sign of corruption or growth?0:50:00 – Does celibacy contradict Peter’s example?0:53:00 – Was Peter actually married during his apostleship?0:55:00 – Is the Pope the Antichrist and the Church the Whore of Babylon?

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I am Cy Kellett, your host, having a lot of fun with Joe Heschmeyer, our guest this hour,

0:35.9

as we're trying to do every objection to the

0:38.0

papacy. We're trying to cover those in two hours. Now, there are probably, of course, there

0:45.3

would be some around the margins. Like, I don't like the color white and the Pope wears white,

0:51.0

or he wears white after Labor Day. These are marginal.

0:54.5

We won't get to that.

0:55.1

We're trying to get to the substantial objections to the papacy.

1:00.5

And I don't even know if they have Labor Day over there.

1:03.4

You can just wear white all year round.

1:05.4

I believe Labor Day is May 1st in much of the world because it's communist May Day.

1:11.4

Oh, that's right.

1:12.4

As Catholics, we do St. Joseph the Worker Day.

1:15.1

Labor Day is such a gross term, like referring to a group of people just as labor, but fine.

1:21.6

Oh, maybe it should be called Labor Movement Day, because it's kind of a...

1:25.8

Maybe we should just say, like, we'd like a fall holiday.

1:29.5

Well, that I... And anybody who proposes a new holiday, I never find myself disagreeing with them.

1:35.4

If they're like, you know what, we should celebrate. I don't care how off the beaten track it is.

1:40.3

I'm like, you are right. We need a day for that. So, yeah. Okay, on we go. So let me just set the

1:48.9

stage, and you tell me if I, if I'm incorrect. It seems to me that we, the first objection to

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