#12193 Did Paul’s Rebuke of Peter Undermine the Papacy? - Joe Heschmeyer

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🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In Galatians, Paul publicly rebukes Peter—but does that disprove papal authority? We unpack what really happened in Antioch and why the Church still holds Peter as the first pope, even amid correction and scandal.

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Questions Covered:

03:22 – Why do people object to the Pope’s role in the Church?
06:40 – Isn’t the papacy unbiblical and not meant to persist beyond Peter?
10:35 – Does the Bible ever say Peter was in Rome?
14:20 – What does “Babylon” mean in 1 Peter 5:13, and how is that connected to Rome?
17:15 – Didn’t Paul co-found the Church in Rome with Peter?
20:05 – Paul rebuked Peter—doesn’t that undermine papal authority?
25:18 – Was Peter’s behavior in Antioch heretical or just scandalous?
30:40 – Doesn’t Galatians 2 show Peter as just another apostle, not a leader?
34:25 – Why do Protestants say we don’t need a Pope if Jesus tore the temple veil?
39:12 – Does Jesus as sole mediator mean there’s no place for the Pope or priests?
43:50 – Why is Hebrews 10 crucial to properly understanding the torn temple veil?
47:00 – Is priesthood abolished in the New Testament?
50:10 – What does 1 Corinthians 10 tell us about sacrifice, the Eucharist, and priests?
54:45 – Why is there a structural Protestant objection to the papacy?

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0:43.6	your host. I think I got excited because we're doing something new today. I was all ready to get on to the something new. We have not done a show like we are about to do for the next two hours.
0:48.3	And I'm very excited about it. And maybe you have, occasionally, you might hear on this show because we answer questions
0:56.7	about the Catholic faith.
0:57.7	Someone call up with an objection about the papacy.
1:02.2	You know, the papacy is not in the Bible or popes are very rich.
1:08.0	Jesus could not have intended this, that kind of thing. And so what we decided
1:12.6	to do is a one day in which we would take every single objection to the papacy made by every
1:20.7	human being who has ever lived. So we called them all, 100 billion people. No, that's not exactly how we did it.
1:28.0	We used the Internet.
1:29.4	There was extensive use of the Internet to compile what are the objections to the papacy.
1:34.2	And so we're going to run through every single objection to the papacy.
1:38.5	And who better to do that with than Joe Heschmire, who wrote the book, Pope Peter. Joe Heschmire, thanks for being here
1:46.2	with us to do this. It is a joy to be here. This is exciting, isn't it? Yeah. So in the book,
1:52.6	Pope Peter, the subtitle is, describes the papacy as the church's most distinctive doctrine.
1:58.3	And I always feel the need to explain that calling it the most
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